Movie Reviews / Dutch TV Interview I
Also a few notes regarding the films Ladyhawke, Osterman Weekend and Eureka
Concerning Nighthawks Rutger says he decided to make the best of it. Stallone looked down on him because he played the lead and had more power. Rutger found it a very unpleasant affair, and a very tense situation. He notes that he did play Stallone's character's enemy, and that this always shines through in the relationship between the actors involved.
On the second or third day
they started filming the death scene of Wulfgar - which Rutger found stupid. He
had to fall violently down the stairs for a week. For the scene inside the house
when he is shot by Stallone, they attached a cable to him to jerk him backwards
when the bullet "hits", even though he told them that he could do that himself.
Stallone insisted on the cable. Then the air pressure of the cable [the force]
was increased without his knowledge so that he was jerked back more violently.
He was very unhappy about this and asked by whose order this happened. It was
Stallone's. He went to the star and told him that if he did it again he would
kick him senseless. The crew turned against Hauer for having this attitude since
Stallone was the star, the one who sold the movie. The second day of filming
Stallone told him that he was going to watch him closely for any slip-ups. If he
made a mistake he would be in trouble.
He never met Stallone again after the film. The interviewer notes that Rutger acted Stallone off the screen. According to Rutger Stallone told him that he was going to be big star, and was openly jealous of this.
Rutger says that the movie is quite shallow, and that the written story was much more dangerous. The story lacks nuances. [?] He notes that the lead in the movies is never killed, except in exceptional cases.
The interviewer mentions some quotes about Rutger's looks and physique, such as references to his "innocent hands" ["argeloze handen", quite a famous quote], his "unsettlingly light blue eyes, his "Norse nose" and "firm chin", and asks him his reaction to them. The actor says that what people see in him are projections, he serves as a hatrack for these. He says one should act in such a way as not to over-emphasize.
It must be full of holes,
through which people can climb. He feels that he is a translator, and that
body-language plays a big role.
The interviewer then cites less favourable quotes, referring to his "watery blue eyes and thick lips". Rutger finds that this is fine. It may be a cut as the interviewer suggests, but it is a good cut. When the interviewer quotes him saying that he found men dumb and women much more interesting Rutger appears to become quite shy, bending forwards out of sight of the camera. He counters he has met many nice men, but that he was simply talking about what he experienced himself. He dislikes macho career-driven men. To the question whether his own career would not put him in that category he says that one must work towards a goal however.
Another Rutger quote states that he can bring across an emotion without acting by concentrating on thoughts. It is just a gift that he has, that is simply the way it is. He does not act. He points out that there is a difference between "playing" and "acting". He hates acting. One has to be in a film. One chooses a framework within which one simply is and does, one does not play that one is doing it. [He talks about the difference between being and acting.] To simply be is most difficult.
At the same time one has to [stylise] the "being" and "doing". It has to be authentic and stylised at the same time. One must think of nothing otherwise you give away to much. Only a bit must be allowed to show, the rest should be achieved by building it up and doing. [Translated literally.]
When you have this gift the way he has it, it is an animal instinct for reacting to what happens in your vicinity. You have to program yourself, then do it. You must visualise the action and do it. You must trust this instinct, then it will take you far.
The interviewer refers to the great relationship he had with Ridley Scott, and that he contributed much to the movie himself. Rutger says that he offers what he has to offer. The director can then say this is too crazy or that is too crazy. He tells the story of his contribution of the dove to Blade Runner, and how the dove was too wet and cold to fly, but preferred to sit in the warm hand. The shot of the dove flying was added later.
On being asked whether he presented himself to the Americans with a specific strategy, Rutger notes how he played many bad guys first, and that he tried very hard to create a role in which played a nice guy. He likes to see the different things he can do.
In the case of Ladyhawke the character was a really commercial [therefore popular] nice character, and he wanted to play him. He was considered too old. [He says to play the role of the "youth", but can't mean Phillipe surely. Maybe Navarre was originally supposed to be younger than Rutger.] The man who was supposed to play him dropped out and the director contacted Rutger to see whether he had time. It became a good role.
He talks about Eureka which was as yet unreleased in the US. He says something about there not being enough money, and that sensors play a big role determining whether a movie is seen or not. It looked as though it was not going to play in the US.
Hackman comes across as an
intimidating person, and it is difficult to get along with someone like that.
But he had "good contact" with him.
In the previous three years, he declares, he worked on films which they just managed to finish on time, and in this way he learned much more than he ever did in the Netherlands.
The interviewer asks why he was in Peckinpah's The Osterman Weekend when he has said that he hates aggression. [Peckinpah's films are known for their brutal violence.] Rutger says it is a question of receiving an offer and having the chance to work with someone. His problem with aggression is his own to overcome. The interviewer suggests the one can learn to deal with it by playing it. Rutger says it is very simple: you just do it and if you do it well no-one notices it is acted. He does not know whether he acts aggressiveness well, and it does not bother him.
Sean Young (I think) said that the camera loves Rutger - this is quoted by the interviewer. Rutger's response is that this is so, and that this is simply the way it is.